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Leaders’ and Readers’ comments on MHARR and MHI joining hands on Dodd-Frank reform

When you get a lot of e-comments and calls on an article, it makes a writer think he has hit an important theme.  There is no easy way to capture all of the comments on our last column:

Can MHI and MHARR Join Hands on Dodd-Frank for Manufactured Housing’s Future?

But let’s provide a representative sampling of what Industry Leaders and Readers are saying about the article linked above.

Most of these emailed messages start with my name, but I will use that only in the first one to save space and time.  We are leaving most typos in, unless there is a character ‘gremlin’ which needs to be modified to reflect the writer’s intended word.  I’ve edit out obvious tip-offs or give-aways of the writer’s identity as well.

Let’s begin:

Tony

I applaud you for taking this public stand. You’re saying what just about everyone in the MHBusiness is thinking, and saying privately these days. And as far as that goes, Good for You!

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Congratulations on what may be your best work yet! You have accurately
summarized the chasms that exist between our industry associations, MHI & MHARR.

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…a ‘next step’ in this challenge, i.e. Good News! MHI & MHARR have worked together ‘in our behalf’ in the past, so precedent is present! “Hey you two, are you listening? We expect you to do so again - NOW!”

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Back to MHI/MHARR: True, the two entities have come together for initiatives in the past (MH Improvement Act of 2000 for instance), but while their intentions are purportedly the same, they have gone about furthering those intentions in drastically different ways.

True, you can catch more flies with honey, but there should be a point of ‘enough is enough.’ I don¹t agree with Danny¹s broadside blasting style in every instance, but in his defense, he¹s been watching HUD running pretty much how they want to, disregarding the law (MHIA 2000), while the ‘get along’ guys seemingly just wants no one to get their feelings hurt.

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I will begin by stating that I am a strong supporter of MHI and I am convinced that for the good of the industry and our deserving customers, this smoldering feud must STOP!  For the past decade, I have seen opportunities for industry unity vanish as a result of the egotistic attitude some of its leaders.

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Manufacturers, retailers, community owners, financial institutions and our customers are all in the same boat. Will we be paddling together toward a better future or separately bailing our individual boats to keep them from sinking?

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It is clear to me, that since my initial involvement with m/h in…that legislative advocacy between the manufacturing and sales of new homes and the needs of existing communities are as different as ever.  The creation of two National legislative advocacy organizations to support these two divergent interests could result in the most efficient application of resources for each separate industry interests.  Problem is: how to provide financing for both. With most of the financial responsibility currently being provided by manufacturers and related suppliers, will communities and their related support services be able to provide for a separate organization?

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It is unfortunate that MHARR can’t cooperate with MHI for the betterment of the industry.  In my experience, though, cooperation in simply not in MHARR’s vocabulary.

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Years ago, I watched a movie entitled Young Frankenstein. Gene Wilder played a young neurosurgeon Dr. Victor von Frankenstein.  He re-animates a lifeless body, but mistakenly transplanted an abnormal brain into it.  The huge, powerful ‘monster’ becomes a danger.  So Dr. Frankenstein does a ‘transfusion’ between the two of them to calm the monster.  Sometimes I think we need a ‘transfusion’ between Danny and Thayer, to balance each one for the betterment of our Industry.

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…the writing deserved the recognition…

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What we could accomplish by combining revenues and resources would probably amaze all of us.

Has this ever been pursued. ??

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This is a sampling of the emailed comments on this topic.  There have been posted comments, and statements posted on LinkedIn relative to this subject as well.  Phone calls have been overwhelmingly supportive of the article:

Can MHI and MHARR Join Hands on Dodd-Frank for Manufactured Housing’s Future?

So can we encourage MHARR and MHI leaders to cooperate together for the betterment of all on Dodd-Frank and other key Industry issues?

Can each association support the other in key areas?

Can there be peace and cooperation between these Industry voices?

What say you?  Your posted or emailed comments are encouraged and appreicated. # #

Editor’s Note: Besides our ‘always new’ Daily Business News , we have three new Industry Voices Guest Blog posts on these topics; each worthy of your attention and comments!

L.A. 'Tony' Kovach, MHM - Publisher, Marketing Director and Industry Consultant
http://www.linkedin.com/in/latonykovach
Manufactured Home Marketing Sales Management trade journal
www.MHMarketingSalesManagement.com aka MHMSM.com aka MHProNews.com
tony@mhmsm.com
815-270-0500
  • Davidroden

    Tony,
    How about this idea:

    What if someone like you, George and any others contact the top three players in Danny’s camp and the top three in Thayer’s camp.

    Draft up a short, pointed letter on the need for united action on key lobbying issues such as Dodd-Frank, MHCC or others.

    Then, ask every member of each association to sign that drafted document.

    By signing, we all would be agreeing for the need of unity against Dodd-Frank. We would agree not to make any effort to abolish either group.

    If enough members from both groups signed, is should send a message to Thayer and Danny to put aside all differences and join forces.

    After a brief explanation of Dodd-Frank, then followed by a statement like:

    “I sign this petition and join in the hope with all in this industry that our two Washington lobby groups will and must join together and put aside any differences and take action to reform Dodd-Frank before it goes into effect, and harms millions of manufactured home owners and costs our Industry tens of thousands of more lost jobs and opportunities.”

    Then we all sign it across the county with name address/e address and phone number so that we might could work together again as a united industry.

    Someone like you, George or Spencer could put this on paper much better than I to sell the idea to everyone.

    Then, that petition could be sent to every elected Rep. in Washington to show our unity.

    That has potential power and would seem to make sense.

    David Roden

  • Tony

    David,
    Thank you for your idea.  As you mentioned in a separate message to me, this below from George F. Allen, was his top item on his blog post this weekend:

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    MHI MHARRvelous Dream! Turns out MHMSM; you know – the nearly two
    year old online ezine at MHMSM.com, has a timely take on last week’s
    post at this website: ‘MHI (‘My’) MHARRvelous Dream’! Like many who make
    their living in one or more segments of the manufactured housing
    industry, the publication believes the time has come, once again, for
    the Manufactured Housing Association for Regulatory Reform (‘MHARR’) and
    Manufactured Housing Institute (‘MHI’) national advocacy bodies to work
    together!

    Once again? That’s right.

    If a novice in the MHIndustry and
    LLCommunity asset class, know many of us have seen these bodies ‘bury
    their bloody hatchets’ in the past, to pass or fight legislation.

    Think
    the Manufactured Housing Improvement Act of 2000, for starters. This
    time around, however, we need the ‘MHI MHARRvelous Dream’ to become
    Reality on several fronts: defeat of Dodd – Frank legislation, HUD’s
    full implementation of aforementioned MHIA @ 2000, even the veritable
    survival of the manufactured housing industry!

    For more information,
    visit MHMSM.com And remember; we can either ‘hang together’ during
    these trying times, or for certain, die separately. Me? I’m all for
    strength in numbers.

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    I changed the spacing for ease of reading, but between the hash marks is a verbatim quotation.

  • Abc

    All industry segments need to work together or we face extinction.  There is no such thing as production and post production(aftermarket) issues.  If there is no home sales, there is no production.  The two interests should ALWAYS be identical!!!!!!  It is juvenile, selfish and just plain ignorant to think otherwise.

  • JimH3098

    Any national association worth supporting would have been working congress, lobbying for the interests of our business PRIOR to passage of these obnoxious laws.  Yelling fire after the theater has burned to the ground is useless.

    The American people have spoken.  What congress has heard is that the average citizen distrusts the manufactured housing industry.  Can we really expect law makers to continue making exceptions to the laws, rules and customs that govern residential sales, in favor of a business that has the negative public profile our industry carries like a monkey on its back, and ignores?

    The excess of our business in the 90′s set the stage for the current housing bust by instructing the broader housing industry how to grab for higher profits regardless of how home buyers are victimized.   The “me generation’s” root belief that greed is good, severely infected manufactured housing yet there has never been any remorse or reform from within.  

    There are just not enough members of congress that our national associations can influence (buy)  who don’t fear the wrath of thier constituents if they make concessions to a gang held in such low public esteem.   

    With 70% of retailers across the country evaporating the only places MH can influence legislators is in Indiana and Tennessee.  Manufactured housing is a failed endeavor.  Anyone looking towards a better future needs to move up to modular and never look back. 

  • Tony

    Jim

    Sorry, but your theater burning down
    analogy does not hold up. There are many financial institutions and
    their respective associations that now oppose Dodd Frank, and they
    opposed it prior to passage too. So are no associations worth
    supporting? My iPhone isn’t perfect, but I do not toss it out if it
    has a systems glitch.

    Americans speak out at the polls
    nationally every two years. What they were excited about before has
    since shifted again. So it goes.

    I agree that there have been excesses.
    But I’d also say that most of the ne’er do wells in the MH world are
    gone. Most pros today know you have to take care of your customer,
    or they will not remain your customer. Today, MH paper is performing
    better. HUD reports very few complaints these days. Our homes are
    better and continue to improve. These are a clear signs that
    satisfaction is there.

    It is interesting to banter with you,
    but in my mind I do understand the comments of those readers who
    question your being an industry professional. You seem so down on an
    Industry that you say you love!

    The HUD Code is worth fighting to
    preserve. Why? Because it gives consumers options that no other form
    of permanent housing can achieve. For those who believe in serving
    the public, we can and should do that with HUD Code MHs, Mods, and
    other forms of factory building.

    Over-regulation is as dangerous as no
    regulations. We need associations, and we need to work with them to
    make the regulatory environment a good one for all concerned.

    Thanks for your comment.

    Tony

  • JimH3098

    It is interesting to banter with you also.   I love my children but get down on them when I think the are going in the wrong direction.   You are the only one who has doubted my history.   You use it to question my sincerity each time my banter is out of harmony with yours.  Just admit, to yourself,  that there can be more than one legitimate point of view.I agree, we need associations to organize legislative and judicial efforts that favor our business goals.  The “pros” at MHI have always been mostly occupied with perpetuating their personal futures, while the MHARR has exhibited interest only in issues that effect their narrow builder constituency.  What we have, at this moment, are two national organizations that have led our business to the edge of extinction.  If our nation’s security depended on generals with the batting averages of our associations. we would probably be having this discussion in Russian. 

    The future of home building is, no doubt, in factories.  It is apparent that HUD housing is in a self inflicted nose-dive.   I regret that there is not enough organization to get a firm hand on the stick.

    What options that no other form of permanent housing can achieve are you talking about?   The options that HUD housing used to offer have evaporated.  The best option advantages were price, alternative financing  and mobility.  

    Our pricing can no longer compete effectively.   Over the last two decades the product has been over designed to approximate the appearance of site built.  Our modern sectional homes are not  designed or built for relocation.  Our financing has become dependent on programs that were designed to serve site builders, not friendly for dealers or especially park owners.    

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